Posted by Kris on January 24, 2008, 2:54 pmPlease Register and login to reply and use other advanced options
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:42:36 -0500, Kris wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:46:12 -0500, RobV wrote:
>
>> Kris wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:52:53 -0500, Kris wrote:
>>
>> [snipped for brevity] [snipped more!]
>
>>> Well, this is my hobby/fun so I had fun!!! I did indeed!!!
>>>
>>> Gigabyte board was bad so returned it and got Asus P5K.
>>> Oc to 270 cpu clock (2.97ghz, mem was 800 @ 1080).
>>> Then NIC on Asus left this plane of existance so took that board back
>>> and got a DFI.
>>> Same OC, though I have settled on 260/1040/2.86mhz
>>> This particular cpu chip runs very hot. Tried about 6 different big
>>> HSFs including Tuniq tower and Freezer7, all yielding 64-70C dirung
>>> Prime 25.5 torture. Newegg: Tt Big Typhoon VX: 60C max. So that's
>>> very liveable! And I'm a very happy camper.
>>>
>>> That VX HSF is also very easy to install - don't have to remove mobo,
>>> unscrew psu and slide it back a couple of inches and that corner pin
>>> is very easy to access. doesn't crowd psu, NB-HS, or memory. Not
>>> particularly heavy.
>>>
>>> Just noticed my NB is 40C. Actually, Smart Guardian says 45C. This
>>> is because when I installed the VX, I pointed the fins from front to
>>> back, not side to side where some air would move past the NB, and
>>> also exhaust into the psu bottom 120mm fan. I'll try changing it
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Fun!!! Toys!!!
>>
>> Kris' Excellent Adventure!
>>
>> You're right, though. The fun is in trying this and that, then getting
>> a decent overclock with acceptable temps. I'm surprised you were able
>> to exchange all that stuff! It wouldn't be as easy (or fast) with any
>> of the web hardware sites.
>>
>> BTW, 45C for the NB is excellent. It usually runs much hotter, nearer
>> to 60C, so don't worry about it. Install the HS for best CPU cooling.
>>
>> The only problem is that after all is done and stable and reliable, it
>> gets a bit boring. ;-) In any case, I'm glad you have a
>> system/overclock that you feel good about. Well done and thanks for the
>> update.
>
> I did try rotating the HSF by 90 deg but the cpu was up to 5C worse and no
> change in the NB temp so back to original.
>
> "gets a bit boring" !!! That's a mouthful!!! I wonder if I'll make it
> half a year before I get a new cpu!!! It never stops! Fortunately!
>
> Those little clips on the HSF that I guess Intel invented are a tad of
> frustration, but 99% of the time it's because I forgot to re-lock it after
> ramoving it - DUH!!! The other 1% is just that most things in this world
> just don't fit/work quite right and it takes a bit of patience!!!
>
> Onward!!!
[[ as to returning lots of stuff, yes, the local MicroCenter (Cambridge) is
great about returns - their only request has been that you return as many
of the parts of an item as possible, and of course I always strive for
perfection in that, thinking about how I would like it if I bought one of
my returns and an important part, like an IO shield, was missing. Scored a
new Newpoint UPS there yesterday - $30 on closeout I guess - 800 VA / 400
watts (I use about 120 watts) - has USB conector so I can retire my old
Belkin which had serial connector and I couldn't get the serial port on the
DFI to work. ]]
--
Kris
--------
DFI P35-T2RL | E2200Alen 2.2@2.86 TtP0310 | 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@1040 | MSI
NX8600GTS-OC 256mb |
Raidmax RX530-SS psu | XP Pro SP 2
Posted by RobV on January 24, 2008, 3:41 pm
Kris wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:42:36 -0500, Kris wrote:
[snip]
> [[ as to returning lots of stuff, yes, the local MicroCenter
> (Cambridge) is great about returns - their only request has been that
> you return as many of the parts of an item as possible, and of course
> I always strive for perfection in that, thinking about how I would
> like it if I bought one of my returns and an important part, like an
> IO shield, was missing. Scored a new Newpoint UPS there yesterday -
> $30 on closeout I guess - 800 VA / 400 watts (I use about 120 watts)
> - has USB conector so I can retire my old Belkin which had serial
> connector and I couldn't get the serial port on the DFI to work. ]]
That's really nice. Wish there was one of them around here.
Around last September, I finally decided to get a UPS (1000 VA
CyberPower) after the power went out about three times within a few
minutes that day. Since that time, we had perfect power until finally
it went out for 3 hours last week. It was really odd to be working on
the computer when everything else is dead and it's dark, except for the
monitor. I took my time, finished what I was doing and shut the
computer down normally. It's definitely worth having one.
Posted by RobV on January 24, 2008, 3:28 pm
Kris wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:46:12 -0500, RobV wrote:
>> Kris wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:52:53 -0500, Kris wrote:
>>
>> [snipped for brevity] [snipped more!]
>>> Well, this is my hobby/fun so I had fun!!! I did indeed!!!
>>>
>>> Gigabyte board was bad so returned it and got Asus P5K.
>>> Oc to 270 cpu clock (2.97ghz, mem was 800 @ 1080).
>>> Then NIC on Asus left this plane of existance so took that board
>>> back and got a DFI.
>>> Same OC, though I have settled on 260/1040/2.86mhz
>>> This particular cpu chip runs very hot. Tried about 6 different big
>>> HSFs including Tuniq tower and Freezer7, all yielding 64-70C dirung
>>> Prime 25.5 torture. Newegg: Tt Big Typhoon VX: 60C max. So that's
>>> very liveable! And I'm a very happy camper.
>>>
>>> That VX HSF is also very easy to install - don't have to remove
>>> mobo, unscrew psu and slide it back a couple of inches and that
>>> corner pin is very easy to access. doesn't crowd psu, NB-HS, or
>>> memory. Not particularly heavy.
>>>
>>> Just noticed my NB is 40C. Actually, Smart Guardian says 45C. This
>>> is because when I installed the VX, I pointed the fins from front to
>>> back, not side to side where some air would move past the NB, and
>>> also exhaust into the psu bottom 120mm fan. I'll try changing it
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Fun!!! Toys!!!
>>
>> Kris' Excellent Adventure!
>>
>> You're right, though. The fun is in trying this and that, then
>> getting a decent overclock with acceptable temps. I'm surprised you
>> were able to exchange all that stuff! It wouldn't be as easy (or
>> fast) with any of the web hardware sites.
>>
>> BTW, 45C for the NB is excellent. It usually runs much hotter,
>> nearer to 60C, so don't worry about it. Install the HS for best CPU
>> cooling.
>>
>> The only problem is that after all is done and stable and reliable,
>> it gets a bit boring. ;-) In any case, I'm glad you have a
>> system/overclock that you feel good about. Well done and thanks for
>> the update.
> I did try rotating the HSF by 90 deg but the cpu was up to 5C worse
> and no change in the NB temp so back to original.
> "gets a bit boring" !!! That's a mouthful!!! I wonder if I'll make
> it half a year before I get a new cpu!!! It never stops!
> Fortunately!
> Those little clips on the HSF that I guess Intel invented are a tad of
> frustration, but 99% of the time it's because I forgot to re-lock it
> after ramoving it - DUH!!! The other 1% is just that most things in
> this world just don't fit/work quite right and it takes a bit of
> patience!!!
> Onward!!!
No, just kidding about the boring part. After the system is done and
stable, you get to run the apps you made the computer for. The first
time I tried to install the Intel heatsink, I almost broke it. I didn't
quite understand how they worked. Now that I've removed it and
installed a larger heatsink, it's obvious and extremely easy to use.
Posted by Phil Weldon on January 17, 2008, 10:07 am
'Kris' wrote, in part:
| This is my first Intel venture and I'm used to the old
| AMD type boards with a little sensor on a bead bent up toward the cpu case
| so you could get a closer reading. The Intel 775 apparently has a couple
| of mills of air between the sensor and the cpu case.
Intel CPUs have on-CPU-die temperature sensors, so there is no thermistor
'under the CPU socket' on motherboards for Intel CPUs.
And yes, butter does work as a thermal paste (I tested unsalted Land 'o
Lakes 98% butterfat.) Butter is runny at CPU temperatures, attracts bugs,
and goes rancid, but otherwise is about as good as Arctic Silver or any
other thermal paste. Just as Arctic Silver is about as good as any other
thermal paste, Radio Shack zinc oxide loaded silicone grease, for example.
Phil Weldon
| On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:17:56 -0500, RobV wrote:
|
| > Kris wrote:
| >> Playing with the little 1.6g until tomorrow, but noticing that
| >> EasyTune does a right fine job of varying the cpu fan speed per the
| >> "cpu" temp which is Winbond IT8718F temp2 per spedfan 4.33final.
| >> cputemp/casetemp is 56C per "coretemp 0.96" (Freezer7).
| >
| > [snip]
| >
| > Coretemp measures the temp inside each core of a multiple core CPU. In
| > the case of the Intel Core2 Duo, it's read from directly inside each
| > core. That 56C isn't CPU/Case temp, it's the temp of each of your CPU's
| > cores (under load, I should hope).
|
| yeah, that was with 1.6 (a 420) -> 1.99 and prime 95 running mixed. yes,
| it's the temp of the core (only 1 now, 2 tomorrow)it idles at 45C
(freezer7
| at the moment) When I swap cpus I'll take a very close look at the center
| of the socket... This is my first Intel venture and I'm used to the old
| AMD type boards with a little sensor on a bead bent up toward the cpu case
| so you could get a closer reading. The Intel 775 apparently has a couple
| of mills of air between the sensor and the cpu case.
|
| I do note that with this bios with voltages set to auto that it would be
| very happy to blow out your cpu or memory. So I have my voltages set
| specifically, and watch my temps.
| --
| Kris
| -----
| GB GA-P35-DS3L, [in mail((E2200Alen 2.2g, Mushkin 2x1gb HP))],
| MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb, Audigy SE 24 bit,
| OnAir USB HDTV-GT with 5.1Dolby and Purevideo Silver,
| Raidmax RX530-SS psu, XP Pro SP 2
>
>> Kris wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:52:53 -0500, Kris wrote:
>>
>> [snipped for brevity] [snipped more!]
>
>>> Well, this is my hobby/fun so I had fun!!! I did indeed!!!
>>>
>>> Gigabyte board was bad so returned it and got Asus P5K.
>>> Oc to 270 cpu clock (2.97ghz, mem was 800 @ 1080).
>>> Then NIC on Asus left this plane of existance so took that board back
>>> and got a DFI.
>>> Same OC, though I have settled on 260/1040/2.86mhz
>>> This particular cpu chip runs very hot. Tried about 6 different big
>>> HSFs including Tuniq tower and Freezer7, all yielding 64-70C dirung
>>> Prime 25.5 torture. Newegg: Tt Big Typhoon VX: 60C max. So that's
>>> very liveable! And I'm a very happy camper.
>>>
>>> That VX HSF is also very easy to install - don't have to remove mobo,
>>> unscrew psu and slide it back a couple of inches and that corner pin
>>> is very easy to access. doesn't crowd psu, NB-HS, or memory. Not
>>> particularly heavy.
>>>
>>> Just noticed my NB is 40C. Actually, Smart Guardian says 45C. This
>>> is because when I installed the VX, I pointed the fins from front to
>>> back, not side to side where some air would move past the NB, and
>>> also exhaust into the psu bottom 120mm fan. I'll try changing it
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Fun!!! Toys!!!
>>
>> Kris' Excellent Adventure!
>>
>> You're right, though. The fun is in trying this and that, then getting
>> a decent overclock with acceptable temps. I'm surprised you were able
>> to exchange all that stuff! It wouldn't be as easy (or fast) with any
>> of the web hardware sites.
>>
>> BTW, 45C for the NB is excellent. It usually runs much hotter, nearer
>> to 60C, so don't worry about it. Install the HS for best CPU cooling.
>>
>> The only problem is that after all is done and stable and reliable, it
>> gets a bit boring. ;-) In any case, I'm glad you have a
>> system/overclock that you feel good about. Well done and thanks for the
>> update.
>
> I did try rotating the HSF by 90 deg but the cpu was up to 5C worse and no
> change in the NB temp so back to original.
>
> "gets a bit boring" !!! That's a mouthful!!! I wonder if I'll make it
> half a year before I get a new cpu!!! It never stops! Fortunately!
>
> Those little clips on the HSF that I guess Intel invented are a tad of
> frustration, but 99% of the time it's because I forgot to re-lock it after
> ramoving it - DUH!!! The other 1% is just that most things in this world
> just don't fit/work quite right and it takes a bit of patience!!!
>
> Onward!!!