Posted by Chalky on May 17, 2006, 11:52 pm
 

Please review the following before responding:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/

I am thinking about building a new PC from scratch--it would be my first
self built machine. Can anyone explain to me in plain english what the
downside of using the 805 D and overclocking it up near 4.0 GHz would be?
The X2 athalon chips would be within my budget, but the tomshardware 805
setup looks like it out performs them if done right. But, what would I not
be getting with the 805? What is the tradeoff? Based on tomshardware, it
seems that the 805 overclock would require a lot more power, but does that
have implications other than needing a bigger power supply? Is it more
expensive to run in terms of electricity? I'd like to leave it on all the
time.

I'm not really a techie and would appreciate a plain english explanation.
Thanks a bunch!

Chalky, J.D.



Posted by tod on May 18, 2006, 12:42 am
 

Overclocking chips usually requires running them at higher voltages then
normal,
which will shorten the lifespan of the chip, which could mean that instead
of working for 6-10 years
it might burnout after 4 years.
Or overclocking could shorten the CPUs lifespan to working only for several
months.
I'm sure someone has had an overclocked chip burnout after only a few weeks.
You also could spend hours tweaking to get just a few extra MHz out of a
CPU.
You also spend $60 for a Zalman cooler, which is money you could have just
spent on a faster CPU.
And I'm sure there are a few 805 Ds that will never overclock to 4.0 GHz.
When my D 805 and Asus P5P800SE arrive this week, I'll be happy if it
 overclocks to 3.6 GHz and with the stock cooler.



Posted by Phil Weldon on May 18, 2006, 1:07 am
 

'Tod' wrote, in part:
| Overclocking chips usually requires running them at higher voltages then
| normal,
| which will shorten the lifespan of the chip, which could mean that instead
| of working for 6-10 years
| it might burnout after 4 years.
_____

When you find a report of ANY Intel CPU 'burning out' because of
overclocking, please post the news here.  Raising the CPU core voltage too
high will 'burn out' a CPU, but instantly.  But that is another issue.

I agree with you about your expectations for 3.6 GHz for your new system.
That is a reasonable, inexpensive overclock; anything more is just gravy.

Phil Weldon

| Overclocking chips usually requires running them at higher voltages then
| normal,
| which will shorten the lifespan of the chip, which could mean that instead
| of working for 6-10 years
| it might burnout after 4 years.
| Or overclocking could shorten the CPUs lifespan to working only for
several
| months.
| I'm sure someone has had an overclocked chip burnout after only a few
weeks.
| You also could spend hours tweaking to get just a few extra MHz out of a
| CPU.
| You also spend $60 for a Zalman cooler, which is money you could have just
| spent on a faster CPU.
| And I'm sure there are a few 805 Ds that will never overclock to 4.0 GHz.
| When my D 805 and Asus P5P800SE arrive this week, I'll be happy if it
| overclocks to 3.6 GHz and with the stock cooler.



Posted by Jack F. Twist on May 18, 2006, 1:29 am
 


It's also a crock of shit.  E.g. P4 Northwoods overvolted past 1.7V
could croak in a day, week, month or year.  Rarely "instantly".



Posted by Phil Weldon on May 18, 2006, 7:13 am
 

'Jack F. Twist' wrote, in part:
| It's also a crock of shit.  E.g. P4 Northwoods overvolted past 1.7V
| could croak in a day, week, month or year.  Rarely "instantly".
_____

And your evidence? Anywhere?

Phil Weldon

| > 'Tod' wrote, in part:
| > | Overclocking chips usually requires running them at higher voltages
then
| > | normal,
| > | which will shorten the lifespan of the chip, which could mean that
instead
| > | of working for 6-10 years
| > | it might burnout after 4 years.
| > _____
| >
| > When you find a report of ANY Intel CPU 'burning out' because of
| > overclocking, please post the news here.  Raising the CPU core voltage
too
| > high will 'burn out' a CPU, but instantly.  But that is another issue.
|
| It's also a crock of shit.  E.g. P4 Northwoods overvolted past 1.7V
| could croak in a day, week, month or year.  Rarely "instantly".
|
|



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